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title: "Saints And Sinners"

meaning: "Julia Ryan rock single (2016 SoundCloud): other people's opinions don't control who you choose to be — saints and sinners, neither side better or worse. FEiN production and recording."

year: 2016
releaseType: "single"

artist: "Julia Ryan"

role: production
productionRoles: "Production · recording engineer (FEiN)"
waltonCredit: false

credits: "Luke Walton confirms: produced and recorded by FEiN (Luke Francis Walton + Brandon Michael Woodward). On this site, Luke's 'produced' credits include recording engineer. SoundCloud upload (Jul 12, 2016) carries Julia Ryan's artist statement only — no session credit block in public metadata."

press:
  - outlet: "Julia Ryan — Saints And Sinners (SoundCloud)"
    url: "https://soundcloud.com/julia-ryan-music/saints-and-sinners"

themes: ["Julia Ryan", "FEiN", "Tiny Giant", "USC Thornton", "2016", "session", "rock"]

draft: false
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**Julia Ryan** — **Saints And Sinners** ([SoundCloud](https://soundcloud.com/julia-ryan-music/saints-and-sinners), uploaded **July 12, 2016** · tagged **Rock**). USC Thornton Popular Music orbit collab with [**FEiN**](/music/fein/) (Luke Francis Walton + Brandon Woodward): **produced and recorded by FEiN** — session credits confirmed by Walton. The public SoundCloud description is Julia's note about writing during a stretch of trying to please everyone, then deciding other people's opinions don't control who she chooses to be.

Same session lane as [What You Want (Slow It Down)](/songs/what-you-want-slow-it-down/) and the broader [catalog — Tiny Giant / FEiN credited work](/catalog/#credited-work).

See [/music/fein/#collaboration](/music/fein/#collaboration)

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