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5 Lessons from Igor Stravinsky
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- title
- 5 Lessons from Igor Stravinsky
- description
- Five lessons from Igor Stravinsky's early career — riots at The Rite of Spring, mentorship under Rimsky-Korsakov, and why being ahead of the curve felt like failure from the inside.
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- complete
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- 2022-08-15
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- solo
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- https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lovemusicmore/episodes/5-Lessons-from-Igor-Stravinsky-e1mhrse
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- https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/5-lessons-from-igor-stravinsky/id1567355195?i=1000576162676&uo=4
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- https://open.spotify.com/episode/1MLnxxghKYM47LTfu9cBx2
- topicsDiscussed
- Classical and orchestral music
- Mixing
- Singing and vocals
- Dr. Robert Greenberg's Great Music of the 20th Century course
- The Rite of Spring premiere riots (1913)
- Stravinsky's mentorship under Rimsky-Korsakov
- Contemporary critics vs. Beethoven (being ahead of the curve)
- Petrushka and blurring performer vs. audience
- Absorbing folk and classical influences without losing your voice
- Stravinsky's opera-singer father and early musical exposure
- hostNote
- Stravinsky's music caused an actual riot. Most people who heard it hated it, and that's not the cautionary tale, it's the proof of concept. Being genuinely ahead of the curve has always felt like failure from the inside. I trace five things his career still has to teach: why relationships and mentorship matter more than raw talent, how he absorbed influences from everything around him without losing his own voice, and the underrated marketing move of blurring performer and audience until the performance itself became the spectacle. Some things require mentorship, mixing is one of them, and Stravinsky understood that from the start. The throughline is "look at what's around you, take the things that are around you, put them into your art." That's not a shortcut. It's the whole practice.
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- Five lessons for pop writers
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- Open on Stravinsky as a turn-of-the-century composer with a ton to teach modern pop musicians.
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- Being ahead of the curve hurts
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- 93
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- Most listeners hated his work; Dr. Greenberg's critic clips show even Beethoven was savaged in his day.
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- Relationships and mentorship
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- 181
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- Stravinsky's path through Rimsky-Korsakov and the musical community around St. Petersburg.
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- Commitment to craft
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- 321
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- Piano study wasn't extraordinary, but mentorship and deliberate craft were.
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- Riots at the premiere
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- 410
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- The Rite of Spring was so intense it spilled into the streets — divisiveness as a signal.
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- Combining old and new
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- 632
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- Folk melodies, classical forms, and contemporary chaos woven into one voice.
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- Audience vs. performer war
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- 684
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- Petrushka performances where the crowd and the stage blurred into one spectacle.
- excerptQuotes
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- Igor Stravinsky is a revolutionary. He was somebody that was incredibly divisive. Somebody that you either loved or you hated, mostly hated. Most people hated it.
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- 88
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- It's always been about relationships, even back then.
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- 187
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- Some things require mentorship. In my world, I think mixing is something that requires mentorship.
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- 327
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- The music is so intense and is so divisive that it actually causes a riot in the streets.
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- 414
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- Look at what's around you, take the things that are around you, put them into your art.
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- 640
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- They started to have this like audience war, where it kind of blurred the sense of who's audience and who's performer.
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- 693
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- faq
- question
- What five lessons does Luke draw from Igor Stravinsky?
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- Being ahead of the curve hurts but can signal you're onto something; relationships and mentorship (Rimsky-Korsakov) mattered as much as talent; riots at The Rite of Spring show how divisive innovation can be; absorb what's around you without losing your voice; and blurring performer and audience (Petrushka) can be its own kind of marketing.
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- Why did Stravinsky's music cause riots?
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- The premiere of The Rite of Spring was so rhythmically and harmonically intense that contemporary audiences reacted violently — critics at the time trashed it the way they had trashed Beethoven decades earlier. Luke uses Dr. Greenberg's course clips to show that 'most people hated it' is often what ahead-of-the-curve work looks like from inside the moment.
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- What does Stravinsky have to do with modern mixing?
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- Luke ties Stravinsky's reliance on mentors to his own craft: some skills, mixing among them, still require a teacher and a community, not just solitary trial and error.
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